Kris Carr

Kris Carr


How Not to Die With Dr. Michael Greger (Interview)

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Hiya Gorgeous,

Plants are powerful.

I’ve experienced this in my own life, and I’ve seen plant foods transform the health of countless readers just like you. They were the light in a very dark tunnel when I was diagnosed and over a decade later, they continue to fill my days with energy, joy and tastiness.

Today, I have a special treat for you—an exclusive interview with Dr. Michael Greger, New York Times best-selling author, internationally-recognized lecturer, physician specializing in clinical nutrition (of the plant-based kind!) and founder of

I’ve been a long-time fan of his work, and today I finally get to pick his brain about some of my favorite topics, from what plant foods are the most powerful inflammation-fighters to his top longevity-boosting smoothie ingredients.

In Dr. Greger’s best-selling book, How Not to Die, he examines the top fifteen causes of death in the United States and explains how nutritional and lifestyle interventions have the ability to surpass pharmaceutical and surgical approaches when treating some major health hiccups, like heart disease, diabetes and various cancers. He also gives practical advice for adopting a healthy diet and lifestyle and uses cutting edge nutritional science to prove that your genes are not your destiny.


We all know this prevention-packed approach is music to my ears, so let’s get an inside look at some of Dr. Greger’s top health tips for living a longer, healthier life…

Kris: I really enjoyed reading about how your grandmother inspired you to become a doctor. My grandma has been a huge inspiration to me as well. She inspired me to learn how to cook, but cancer inspired me to turn my kitchen into my pharmacy. Can you tell our readers about your grandmother’s empowering health story?

Dr. Greger: I think the spark for many kids to want to become a doctor when they grow-up is watching a grandparent get sick, or even die. But for me, it was my grandma getting better. At 65 years old, she had already had a couple of open heart surgeries, and she was told there was nothing more her doctors could do. She was wheelchair-bound with crushing chest pain when she heard about Nathan Pritikin’s plant-based program. If anyone needed heart disease reversal, it was her.

They wheeled my grandmother into the Pritikin facility, and after she completed the program, she no longer needed her wheelchair and walked out on her own. I’ll never forget that. And for a kid, that’s all that matters—you get to play with grandma again. Thanks to a healthy diet, she was able to enjoy another 28 years on this earth with her six grandkids, including me!

Kris: In your new book, How Not To Die, you cover the top 15 causes of mortality in the United States. You’ve seen the power diet and lifestyle have to reverse disease in your own family. But in a broader sense, how much do you think these common diseases are caused by genetics versus our health habits?

Dr. Greger: The best available evidence suggests that up to 80% of chronic diseases are attributable to lifestyle habits (including diet). So, thank you for helping to spread the word about dietary sanity—it’s so important! What I find inspiring about these numbers is that even if you may have been dealt a certain set of genes, you can reshuffle the deck with your healthy habits. Our genes are not our destiny.

Kris: How did you narrow down the winners on your Daily Dozen list when there are so many healthy foods and lifestyle choices out there?

Dr. Greger: I just followed the science! The Daily Dozen is a list of plant-based foods and lifestyle practices that you should be aiming to meet every day to increase your wellness and add years to your life (grab the free Daily Dozen app for iPhone and Android!). All of the winners are evidence-based recommendations; I compiled the strongest medical studies into a list. If anyone wants to read the original study, I cite all of my sources (thousands of them actually!) on and in my bookThe Daily Dozen list includes: beans, berries, other fruits, cruciferous veggies, greens, other vegetables, flaxseeds, nuts, whole grains, spices, exercise and hydration.

Kris: Most of your Daily Dozen list covers broad categories of food and exercise, but flaxseed gets its own spot. Why is it so powerful and how do you advise people to fit it into their diets more regularly?

Dr. Greger: Randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trials have shown that the consumption of a few spoonfuls of ground flaxseeds a day can bring down blood pressure 2 to 3 times better than our leading blood pressure medications. And unlike most medications, they also only have good side effects, reducing the risk of breast and prostate cancer, controlling cholesterol, triglycerides and blood sugars, reducing inflammation and curing constipation.

Kris: Many of my readers are facing health challenges that are worsened or caused by inflammation. What are a few foods you’d suggest they integrate into their diets to decrease inflammation?

Dr. Greger: I love this question since “inflammation” is such a hot topic right now. Whole plant foods have anti-inflammatory effects, although some plants are better than others (i.e. berries are more anti-inflammatory than bananas). A recent study showed that people who ate at least five servings a day of high-antioxidant fruits and vegetables, like berries and greens, had significantly reduced systemic inflammation. But as I discuss in How Not to Die, it’s not just about what we eat, it’s also about what we don’t eat. By leaving out the inflammation-causing foods, such as processed foods, meat, dairy and eggs, we allow anti-inflammatory foods to be even more effective.

Kris: We’re big fans of smoothies here at! What are some smoothie-friendly, disease-fighting ingredients you’d recommend most?

Dr. Greger: Smoothies are a great way to sneak in powerful disease-fighting foods that you might not eat on their own. Try combining some bitter greens (for example, kale or even spinach) and berries with a piece of fresh ginger or a few leaves of fresh mint, a tablespoon of ground flaxseeds, a teaspoon of amla (Indian Gooseberry), 1/4-inch of fresh turmeric, and you have a delicious, disease-fighting Super Smoothie!

Kris: Snacks can be your best friend or can sabotage your healthy eating plans if you’re not prepared! What foods do you recommend for quick, on-the-go eating?

Dr. Greger: Kale chips, of course! I make mine ahead of time and just take them with me wherever I go. Cheap, easy and then you get to cross off a serving of greens from your Daily Dozen list!

Kris: Thanks, Dr. Greger!

If some of this info is new to you (or a much needed reminder!), I hope it inspires you to add more plants to your plate each day. The only way to truly understand how much these shifts can make a difference is to experience them firsthand.

Your turn: What approaches to eating more plants have helped you improve your health most? I wanna hear your tips and stories!

Peace & fabulous flax,

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  2. Jen says:

    Hi Kris, love your site.
    I was wondering how get enough calcium on a plant based diet?

  3. Charlotte says:

    I noticed on the Nutrition Facts website that Dr Greger warns against consuming spirulina and blue-green algae since they contain neurotoxins, but I’ve never heard of this anywhere else, and the Food Matters website really encourages the use of spirulina as a supplement… so I’m really confused now! Kris, have you discussed this Dr Greger? I’d love your take on it.
    Also Dr Greger has articles and videos on Nutrition Facts supporting the traditional link between saturated fat, cholesterol and heart disease, but there are many documentaries on Food Matters (like ‘Statin Nation’) suggesting that this is incorrect, and that actually cholesterol is not something to be worried about (in fact, it’s vital for our bodies, and whatever your level is, is what it should be for your body). There are a lot of overlaps with all these doctors in the natural health community so it’s quite confusing when they contradict each other… How do you sort out all the information going?!

  4. Amanda Dawe says:

    Thank you so much for this interview Kris! Love the app for the Daily Dozen! xoxo

  5. nina elle says:


  6. Abhijit ray says:

    Excellent information….

  7. Jeannie Danford says:

    My husband and I are huge fans of Dr. Gregor!!! He is a personal trainer and recommends Dr. Gregors book and website to all of his clients. Thanks to both of you for all the great information.

  8. Cori says:

    Did I miss the part about how much exercise to get? I don’t see it!

  9. Dr Greger is a foodie hero of mine! With his high intelligence and quick wit & sense of irony, you cannot help but smile and learn through his weekly videos on good nutrition.

  10. Renee says:

    I use Dr. Greger’s Daily Dozen app and it’s a great way to make sure I’m getting the right mix of healthy foods each day. I love being powered by plants! It’s the healthiest and most compassionate way to eat.

  11. Cindi says:

    Ty ty that was a much needed or really a badly needed reminder with a little new thrown in
    and U are amazing as always

  12. Dawn Engler says:

    I’m currently trying to convince the family to let me add a plant based day to our weekly diet now. It took a bit for them to agree to meatless monday, but I know they’ll let me try.
    Baby steps, baby…taking the baby steps one at a time!

  13. Vanessa Osborne says:

    Hey Kris!
    You are Amazing!
    I want to clean up my lifestyle and one of the big areas of my life is my eating habits.
    Although I am healthy, veganism is just screaming at me and telling me i need this in my life and so, I would like to have your recommendations of books I can read when making this transition. The All You Need To Knows about having a green diet. I really am inspired by you and so I feel you would have the upmost valuable advice in this case. I am training to become a holistic health practitioner this year and much more :D. So I want to practice what I preach and so I am looking for a starting point! Thank you for all that you do! You are making your mark deep in our hearts and in this world!

  14. Molly McGregor says:

    Even this interview snippet was super-enlightening. Thank you for making this precious stuff so accessible. Flax- couldn’t be easier people! <3

  15. June Semer says:

    For the Kale Chips recipe from Dr. Greger…how can they be made if you do not have a dehydrator? I want to post this recipe in our Cancer Newsletter : )

    Thank You

    • Mayouri says:

      Oven-baked ones are delicious. my fav one recipe includes nutritional yeast flakes, curry powder, coconut sugar, lil’ salT, lemon juice and bake them for 15-20 mins till they are crispy.No oil. they taste EPIC!

      • June Semer says:

        Sounds great Mayouri….what temp to bake them?

        • Mayouri says:

          Preheat oven to 200°C conventional (180°C fan-forced). It is imp that the pulled-apart kale leaves are dry for this. Put these bite sized pieces on a bakin sheet and massage them with all the ingredients. Bake for 10 mins( depending on your oven’s strength) ! Let me know how it goes:-)

  16. Sarah says:

    Love both you, Kris, and Dr. Gregor! So great that you had the opportunity to interview him. I am looking forward to purchasing the book!

  17. siri jostad says:

    How Not to Die is a brilliant book title and the quippiness of it is what made me click through to read the interview….would have preferred a video interview as it is easier and quicker for me. I downloaded the app!

  18. Sandra says:

    What about wheat? The one thing that causes the most amount of inflammation in the body. As the immunesystem attacks the bodys own intestines just to try to get rid of it. How can that be included?

  19. Mary E-O says:

    Thanks for focusing light on Dr Greger and nutrition (easy search if any topic on the website) Both offer an abundance of practical information and resources.

  20. Donna says:

    I love Dr. Greger! If you haven’t already check out his web site. You can search for specific topics and find entertaining and informative videos about almost all health topics!

  21. Jodi says:

    Kris, what about gluten? Confused! Gluten free or whole grains?

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