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Kris Carr

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How to Treat Epstein-Barr Virus Naturally

Hiya Gorgeous,

A few years ago, I went through a long bout of fatigue.

And, I’m talkin’ bone-tired, 24/7 kind-of-fatigue. During that time, I did a lot of exploring “under the hood” with my Integrative, M.D. One possibility we looked into was the Epstein-Barr virus. Ever since, I’ve been wanting to talk with you about this incredibly common infection. Well, today’s that day.

What is Epstein-Barr Virus (EBV)?

The Epstein-Barr virus (EBV) is part of the herpes virus family. Other infections in this family include cold sores, herpes, shingles, and chickenpox. Infectious Mononucleosis (aka mono or the “Kissing Disease”) is probably the most commonly-known way EBV manifests itself.

Infectious Mononucleosis, also referred to as “Glandular Fever” manifests originally with these symptoms:

  • Swollen glands
  • Extreme fatigue
  • Fever
  • Headache/body aches
  • Sore throat
  • Rash
  • Enlarged liver and spleen

The symptoms of Epstein Barr Virus are usually mild. Because EBV symptoms overlap with other illnesses (sore throat, fever, rashes, etc.), children are commonly misdiagnosed with strep throat or another virus.

And, up to 95% of the population is infected with the Epstein-Barr Virus. The majority of these people are going through life as unknowing carriers. Typically, carriers are symptomless (the virus just hangs around—dormant).

EBV Becomes a Problem When it Reactivates and Attacks the Immune System

The problem is if the virus reactivates due to a stressed immune system (we’ll talk about that in a moment!), it’s a real drag. You’re exhausted, achy, and feel under the weather—all the time. Many people can be misdiagnosed with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.

Are you experiencing fatigue that no amount of sleep, nourishing food, exercise, or caffeine can shake? Do you often come down with persistent “flu-like” symptoms? If this is the case and you haven’t been able to get to the root of the issue, you may want to look into EBV with your doctor.

 

Understanding the Epstein-Bar Virus from the Lens of a Professional

To help us understand EBV, I’ve turned to our fabulous friend, Doctor Aviva Romm. Aviva is a Yale-trained M.D. and Board Certified family physician, midwife, and herbalist who is focused on helping women not only heal their bodies and minds but transform their lives. She covers the Epstein-Barr virus in her popular book, The Adrenal Thyroid Revolution.

Now, let’s dig into my conversation with Aviva…

How is the EBV Virus Transmitted and How Prevalent is it?

EBV is transmitted through intimate contact, which includes “sharing” saliva (this can happen through drinking out of the same cups, kissing, or passing joints or cigarettes). It’s highly prevalent. As you read above, about ninety-five percent of people worldwide have been infected with the virus.

Other modes of transmission can include:

  • Blood transfusion (blood is not tested for the Epstein-Barr Virus)
  • An infant can contract the initial infection if the mother has the virus
  • Food contaminated when someone is cut
  • Bodily fluids through sexual contact

You can even be exposed to Epstein-Barr from coming into contact with toys that have been drooled on by an infant that has the virus.

Who is Most Likely to be Infected by EBV and How is it Diagnosed?

Anyone can become infected by the Epstein-Barr Virus. Symptomatic infections with mono seem to be most common in the late teenage years and early 20s. Most of us have been exposed and are asymptomatic carriers in our adult lives.

Women going through major life changes, including the death of a loved one, a major move, a job change, or menopause, for example, may be particularly susceptible to reactivation of the virus, and therefore a symptomatic infection.

To diagnose, your healthcare practitioner can do a simple blood test called a “Complete EBV Acute Panel,” which includes: Viral capsid antigen (VCA)-IgM, VCA-IgG, D early antigen (EA-D), and Epstein-Barr nuclear antigen (EBNA). They can also run a chronic infection panel.

What is EBV Reactivation and What are its Symptoms?

EBV reactivation can persist for months, much like mono can, though it’s usually significantly milder. Reactivation of the virus often happens in times of prolonged stress. Symptoms typically include chronic fatigue, aching muscles and joints, swollen lymph nodes, and other persistent flu-like symptoms. It can also cause malaise and even depression. A physical exam may find a swollen liver and spleen, and liver function tests may be abnormal.

What is Chronic EBV Infection and What are the Signs and Symptoms?

While chronic Epstein-Barr is considered rare, the symptoms are similar to those dealing with reactivation and may be mild to severe. Liver and spleen abnormalities may not be observable or found in this case. Chronic infections occur when the infection remains persistent rather than going dormant, as it should when the immune system is able to keep it under wraps and you’d remain symptom-free.

There are a variety of chronic symptoms, some of which are:

  • Muscle and joint pain
  • Migraines
  • Consistent fatigue
  • Dizziness/Blurred vision
  • Restless sleep
  • Numbness of the hands and feet
  • Tinnitus
  • Vertigo

There are many more seemingly unrelated symptoms associated with Epstein-Barr.

Is EBV Connected to Other Chronic Infections, like Cancer or Autoimmune Disease?

EBV has been associated with numerous autoimmune diseases such as Lupus, Hashimoto’s thyroiditis, Lyme Disease, and Rheumatoid Arthritis, and is a trigger for multiple sclerosis (MS). EBV is also associated with certain lymphomas (types of cancer affecting B-cells of the immune system).

Why Does EBV Cause Other Infections?

There are a few hypotheses as to why EBV causes other autoimmune conditions:

Bystander Activation

Also known as the “Bystander Effect,” this happens when the immune system attacks and destroys healthy cells alongside the virus. The virus can also lead to the activation of immune cells that attack the body itself.

Molecular Mimicry

Molecular mimicry occurs when your immune system attacks the virus. Some of your tissues may mimic the molecular structure of the virus, which can confuse the immune system, leading it to attack healthy tissue.

Dysregulation in the Immune System

If your body is constantly combating viral infections, it can activate the adrenal glands and lead to adrenal fatigue. In turn, this can lead to immune dysfunction.

Autoimmune conditions are on the rise and it appears that EBV can be linked to decreased immune function.

What Treatments are Available for EBV (Conventional Medicine and Holistic)?

While supportive treatments are available for mono, no specific conventional medical treatments have been established for treating recurrent or chronic EBV.

Many holistic doctors use an antiviral medication called Acycovir, which is also used in the treatment of viruses in the herpes family. While this treatment is considered “off label”, meaning not intended for this purpose, patients have reported that it helps with symptoms and shortens the duration of their illnesses. It is also considered relatively safe.

The Plant-Based Foods, Herbs, and Supplements Aviva Recommends

Aviva emphasizes good nutrition, healthy sleep habits, and relaxation techniques to keep the immune system in optimal condition, along with smart basic hygiene practices. She believes in using adaptogen herbs, such as ashwagandha, holy basil, and reishi for general immune support (learn more here).

Aviva also recommends antiviral and anti-inflammatory herbs, and supplements that are effective in fighting against EBV (or viruses in the herpes family). Here are some examples:

  • Zinc Citrate: Take 30-60 mg with food daily to avoid nausea. If you exceed 60 mg/day it can be toxic.
  • St John’s Wort: This is an antiviral and relieves depression. Take 300-600 mg/day of products standardized to 0.3% hypericin and/or 3-5% hyperforin.
  • Lemon Balm: Antiviral and relieves stress and anxiety. Take 300-1200 mg daily in green tea or capsules, or 40-60 drops of tincture 1 to 3 times daily.
  • Licorice: Antiviral, anti-inflammatory, and an adaptogen. Take 150-300 mg daily.
  • Echinacea: Anti-inflammatory and antiviral. Take 300-500 mg up to three times daily.

Adding a high-dose vitamin c supplement (2,000 mg per day) can also support your immune system and its oxidative effects can kill viruses. Please check with your healthcare practitioner before adding new supplements to your life.

Foods that Can Naturally Boost Your Immune System

For Epstein-Barr Virus treatment, I recommend a combination of immune-supportive foods, especially plenty of dark green leafy vegetables, vitamin-A rich carrots and sweet potatoes, dark blue and blackberries, nuts and seeds, and good quality protein. Here’s a more comprehensive list:

  • Celery
  • Sprouts
  • Asparagus
  • Spinach
  • Cilantro
  • Parsley
  • Coconut oil
  • Garlic
  • Ginger
  • Turmeric
  • Raspberries
  • Lettuce
  • Papayas
  • Apricots
  • Cayenne
  • Lemon
  • Pomegranates
  • Grapefruit
  • Kale
  • Sweet potatoes
  • Cucumbers
  • Fennel
  • Essential fats (from nuts, seeds, and avocados, for example)

An Alternative Treatment Option to Treat the Epstein Barr Virus Naturally: Autohemotherapy

Autohemotherapy—also known as autologous blood therapy—is a process by which you have blood drawn and it is injected with medical-grade ozone. After being allowed to intermix for a short time, the ozonated blood is then infused back into your bloodstream.

It super-oxygenates your blood, which has been found to kill pathogens (including EBV toxins). This therapy is being tested as a treatment for everything from chronic urticaria and eczema to treating fibromyalgia, and other viral infections.

This isn’t a treatment embraced by the medical community at large and more research needs to be done, but it’s shown promising results. Please note this must be carried out by qualified medical professionals (and always speak with your doctor before implementing a treatment protocol).

Are You Struggling with EBV Symptoms?

If you are struggling with EBV or suspect that it could be impacting your health, I hope that this information and these tips empower you to explore this virus further with your healthcare practitioner.

Your turn: Do you have experience with the Epstein-Barr virus? If so, what lifestyle practices, treatments, herbs and/or supplements have you found helpful? Share your experiences in the comments below!

Peace and strong immune systems,

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  1. Beth says:

    I have found after several years of chronic active ABV is acupuncture for the immune system. It was a game changer for me. You have to find somebody that knows how to treat immune system not just injury also practicing Chi gong, which is Chinese medicine movements that is what brought healing to me.

  2. Cindy Lee says:

    Hi
    Thank you for your posting re EBV.
    I am suffering from ebv for at least 4 months. I would like to know how many drops of licorice root tincture to mix in my tea. You noted mg for pill form only.

    My lemon balm says 1 dropper full on bottle. Maybe that is for maintenance of some kind. Glad to read your recommendation is much higher an more often. Makes more sense w regard to ebv.

    May I ask your recommendation for amount of drops for Zinc an Cats Claw?

    Thank you for your time.
    Cindy Lee

  3. Delores Mann says:

    Hi Kris, I was reading your top 4 causes for Hashimoto’s Disease. I had EBV back in the 1970. I believe that it might be reacted. I notice that the viral infection has test that you run. My question is do you run these test plus the full panel on the thyroid test if people are out of state. The doctors here do not run test like these. I have suggested them and they laugh and prescribe meds for something they did not test for. Please email me if you do or not. I would like to have them ran.

    • Jennifer says:

      Hi Delores, this is Jennifer from Team Crazy Sexy. That’s an excellent question that you’d need to ask Dr. Aviva Romm about. I’m sorry I can’t answer it but Kris hasn’t done as deep a dive as Dr. Romm. The whole team is sending you lots of love and healing energy. Have a beautiful rest of the day.

  4. Hovanes Chilian says:

    I was left without a diagnosis for months and months and only after foolishly getting a nasal surgery I realized the flu feeling/pressure between my eyes and sore throat was from EBV. I am making slow progress with my diet and supplements but since the surgery I have been getting burning/tingling mostly on my face but also my arms as well. Does anyone know if the immune system can eventually deactivate a virus that has entered the peripheral nerves of the body? The burning is so crappy on top of the crap feeling between my eyes. I’m going to see some doctors for this new symptom but would love to get some encouragement. 🙁 thanks for this blog I really appreciate all the support I can get. It’s really frustrating knowing I was in the process of healing and took a huge step back getting a harmful and unnecessary surgery because I was desperate and uninformed.

  5. Jessica says:

    I have reactivated EBV, my first infection that I remember getting was when I was 25 and I never fully recovered, the fevers and night sweats continued… I was just diagnosed with the reactivated EBV and it triggered Lupus my vca igg is 473 and my nuclear antigen igg is 556 early antigen igg was 11.4 (actively replicating)… I’m seeing a functional medicine dr and am on a ton of stuff to fight this but I’m not feeling better and am almost 2 months in with treatment.. I need to get my life back.. I have 2 year old and a farm to take care of..

  6. Corrie says:

    Here is what I want someone to study: the link between allergies and the reactivation of the Epstein-Barr virus. I was diagnosed with Relapsing Remitting MS in 2015, and each year after that, I experience relapses or pseudo-relapses during the seasonal transition from summer to fall. Right now, I am experiencing double vision and numbness in my legs, and it began as soon as the leaves fell. When I go to my MS doctor, she’s going to tell me that I have to take a course of corticosteroids, even though the steroids never make me feel better. In fact, steroids make me feel worse. I have read that Epstein-Barr does not respond to steroids, so I have to ask: why, when virtually everyone who has MS also has Epstein-Barr, are steroids the typical treatment for relapses? I feel like I’m on a hamster wheel. I was tested for Lyme Disease (negative) simply because I didn’t feel that the MS treatment was helping me and I wondered if I’d been misdiagnosed. Now that I’ve been educated about Epstein-Barr, I have to wonder why the neurologist didn’t test me for this from the getgo.

    As a child, I took allergy shots — I am allergic to a long list of things… At some point before my teenage years, I was exposed to Epstein-Barr, and I firmly believe that this virus is activated anytime I experience seasonal allergies. But does my neurologist want to hear about this? No. She just wants me to take my Copaxone (which also doesn’t seem to do any good) and then treat relapses with steroids which I do not intend to take this time around because the recovery time for me is not worth it. It always takes two courses of steroids, sometimes three. Why should I put my body through that when the research says that Epstein-Barr isn’t affected by steroids?

    Is there ANY neurologist out there who has a different procedure for treating MS that takes into consideration the Epstein-Barr virus and its reactivation? I don’t care how far I have to drive or fly — I want to meet them.

    • Carlita says:

      I’m looking forward to hearing any responses to your post!

      I am not a doctor, but I’d say if it’s coinciding with allergies, then you have gut healing to do! Just my 2 cents!

      • Corrie says:

        Thank you, Carlita. I’ve been fasting, hoping to stabilize my gut. I think you’re right about that! The only time I feel good is when I’m fasting. Hopefully there will be some answers soon…

  7. Wendy says:

    What about Lysine

  8. omercy says:

    Thank you! Is it safe to take echinacea & licorice when you have hashimoto’s & EBV?

    • Mindy Gray, RD says:

      Hi Omercy! I’m Mindy, a Dietitian here at team Crazy Sexy. Immune supportive, antiviral and anti-inflammatory herbs such as echinacea and licorice, can be helpful at fighting against the EBV virus. Addressing EBV may help manage your Hashimoto’s. However, there is some caution recommended when using echinacea supplements long term in those with autoimmune diseases. Hashimoto’s in one person, can be different than Hashimoto’s in another. Since echinacea boosts your immune system, it could potentially cause flare ups in some people with autoimmune diseases. Since autoimmune diseases are complex and highly individualized, each person may react differently to herbal therapies including echinacea and licorice. It’s important for those with EBV and Hashimoto’s to work with an integrative practitioner on which natural treatment options are best for them!

  9. diana says:

    What about lauracidin said to kill EBV ? its from coconuts so I can’t take it but wondered if you have tried it and why you did not recommend it to your readers. I also have hashimotos disease caused by EBV

    • Jennifer says:

      Hey there, Diana! This is Jennifer from Team Crazy Sexy and I got a terrific response from our Nutritionist that might be able to help: “There is a variety of herbs, supplements, and natural options to help address Epstein-Barr Virus. Monolaurin or lauric acid, one of the components of coconut oil, is an option that may help support the body’s ability to suppress EBV. For those that tolerate coconut oil, a few tablespoons a day may be helpful. Since each person will react differently to lauric acid and the other natural treatment approaches for EBV, it’s important for those with EBV to work with an integrative practitioner on which treatment options are best for them. Addressing EBV may help manage Hashimoto’s. Also, a gluten-free diet is one that seems to have a positive effect in Hashimoto’s management.” Hope this helps and good luck!
      =

  10. Mary says:

    Thank You for your post. June 2018 I was diagnosed with EBV that I know I have had for now 31 years. Sadly even my NP missed the diagnoses but finally did the right testing after 5 yrs. with her.
    I have taken EBV drops and some UNDA’s that were helping. I still have high EBV levels, and now am experiencing severe muscle & bone pain. I have been on a special diet for 6 yrs. now also.
    I am looking for relief in my bone pain mostly. I can be severe with weather pressure changes also.

  11. Courtney Canning says:

    Hello, I was wondering about your thoughts on Chinese herbs and acupuncture ? I have been sick for a year now and dont know where to turn.

  12. Courtney Canning says:

    Hello, i am just in need of some advice. I was diagnosed with ebv 9 months ago. I had fatigue,sore throat, headaches, and loss of appetite. I had to take months out of work. About 5 months in I went for bloodwork and the ebv was no longer active. But my symptoms never fully went away. The sore throat has stuck around the while time along with some eye pain, tonsil stones, and post nasal drip. I went to the ENT and I am supposed to have my tonsils removed in 2 weeks. Idk if this is safe and i am wondering if anyone else has had this done. I am also on a zpac right now for my throat but i feel like i am now having a flare up and I’m worried. Idk if the tonsillectomy is too risky but I need some relief. Please any advice would be much appreciated. Thank you so much and good luck to everyone.

    • Jen Reilly, RD says:

      Hi Courtney! I’m the nutrition director here so I’ll chime in for Kris. My advice would be to go get a second opinion on the tonsillectomy, or even the EBV. If possible, you may want to check in with an integrative doc as he/she may encourage you to explore alternative therapies before surgery. Sending you big healing hugs! xo – Jen

  13. Heather Stacy says:

    I had EBV in 2013 which turned into a diagnosis of Lupus. I had long periods of prolonged stress and depression. As of 2016 I no longer have either. I believe in the power of essential oils, Epsom salt detox baths, antioxidant smoothies, yoga and sleep regimens. All of these lifestyles changes and faith to fight gave me hope that my health is much better than it was. I’m blessed to have my health back.

  14. Taylor says:

    I have recently been having some health problems. In and out of hospital, felt awful for the last 6 weeks and have had severe muscle weakness and fatigue with an almost tremor like shakiness in my hands, arms, and sometimes neck. Recently received some blood work back showing I tested positive for EBV. Provider told me it could be a reactivation or old (not sure which way to tell I guess). Just wondering if anyone else has experienced this shaky muscle feeling while infected with the virus. My joints sometimes hurt too. Even the bottoms of my feet. My knees, especially my elbows. Almost feels like when you hit your funny bone and it zings your arm. Also experience severe bouts of dizziness. To the point where I couldn’t work, get up. The room didn’t spin, but it would disorient me and make me feel very foggy.

    • Hey Taylor, I’m writing in response because I had a very similar experience. I started doing intense measures against EBV, including celery juice and a smoothie similar to what Carole said above. I experienced some detoxing at first, but then was sent into a viral flare. I couldn’t stand up or move quickly without getting dizzy or blacking out. I had tested positive for a reactivation earlier in the year, so I know its in my system. I had tremors and tachycardia (elevated heart rate) that came from an inflammation of my heart, which EBV can also cause.
      I’m getting better slowly but surely, but I’ve had to rest A LOT, bail on a lot of commitments or plans, and invest time in restorative things like yin yoga and yoga nidra. The immune system needs a lot of support, so stress-reduction is key. I eat a plant-based diet with no coffee and lower but healthy fats to give the liver a break. Staying up past 10 should really be avoided, as well as any late-night plans. I’ve arranged with my employer to take 2 days of home office per week and will be reducing my hours to 80%.
      It can take 6 months to a year to get past this, so its really worth it to learn how to care for yourself and take a break. I’m a holistic nutrition consultant and love working from the heart with people on chronic issues; I know how it feels to go through this, but if you go through it mindfully, it can actually be a rewarding process of personal development 🙂

  15. Carole says:

    I have EBV and Hashimooto’s. I make a morning smoothie with fruit,Hawiian Spirlina,Barley grass powder,Dulse and cilantro.Also i take B12,Selenium. and L-lysine.

  16. free iptv says:

    Hello,nice share.

  17. Daniele Beasley says:

    Kris! I was lucky to see you speak at the Dream Camp this last weekend and just stumbled across this interview. After returning home I received blood work that shows my antibodies are super high but my igm is negative. Do you think a >600 on the antibody test need to be treated? I’m entering my third month on a nearly vegan diet (no sugar, gluten, eggs, soy, dairy, peanuts). My Doctor wanted me to take Olive Tree Extract to kill it, but I haven’t heard it’s possible?

    Do you have any recommendations?

  18. Lizw says:

    Hello. I had dx of EBV almost 30yrs ago. I had excellent infectious disease md who put me on tagamet believing histamine blocker helped. It did some and I really fought to get better. Took over a year. Last week I was dx w reactivated Active EBV. I’m 60 and feel quite vulnerable And sick! My question: do u think L Lysine is effective? I’m Very sensitive to herbs supplements so I can’t experiment but I’ve taken lysine in past for cold sores (herpes). Sorry for long email… Also what about zinc lozenges?? Thank u

  19. Nicole says:

    I have just stumbled upon this post, I’m so happy to have read that orher folks have had similar experience. I was diagnosed with EBV and mono back in June. I felt great by the end of July and then 4 days ago, August 1, I seem to have hit a wall again. Today my head is full off pressure again, my legs tingle a bit. I’m resting but can’t actually sleep. I’ve been adding coconut oil to my smoothie daily, have had acupuncture, and taking vitamins. I have 2 children, husband, and full time job. I just want this illness to be done. How much longer….

  20. jun zina says:

    I was told last year I have herpes 2. My symptoms came fast and furious. Itching and burning beyond belief. The pain is unbearable. Urinating caused me to scream. I couldn’t sleep at night because of the pain. I often had to have cold compresses between my legs to get relief. I made an appointment with my doctor and she knew right away by looking,she directed me to Total cure herbal foundation Totalcureherbalfoundation gmailcom )online to purchase the a herbal formula from them because this herbal formula has been the only way to get rid of this virus totally,without wasting anytime i contacted them and purchased,i had to use the herbal remedies as instructed which actually helped me get rid of this virus totally with serious side effect.
    i’m glad

  21. Helene Nagel says:

    Hi Kris Carr,
    You are great!!! I am so inspired when I read anything from you!! Can you please help me?? I am a survivor of breast cancer which I had in 2012, so far so good with cancer antigen tests!! and I have psoriasis and psoriatic arthitis which is quite painful in the winter. i live in NY. any books that you can recommend?? I love you and your positive attitude!!!

  22. Courtney Canning says:

    Hello, I am on need of some advice in EBB. I have had a reactivation that has lasted 2 months so far. I felt so sick at first and was working 12 hour shifts for a month and half into bring sick. It was awful. My head, throat,vulva and sinuses were affected. U have been out of work for 2 weeks now and resting a lot which is def helping but I cannot kick the sore throat and vulva. I am almost 30 years old. I had mono when I was 14 but I’ve been pretty active ever since. This is really throwing me for a loop. Any advice? So far I am taking 600mg of monolaurin and a organic multi vitamin everyday for the past week.

    • Gina says:

      I think the best advise I can give based on my experience is to slow down, listen to your body, eat well and boost your immune system. Try energy medicine.

      • Courtney Canning says:

        Have you ever heard of Anthony Williams? He seem to think fruits ,veggies, and supplements can really help heal you. Have you ever heard of this affecting the vulva?

    • Tammy Gadomski says:

      Courtney, I had mono when I was 16 for a few weeks. Diagnosed via blood test has Epstein Barr virus one year ago. I finally kicked it after a year. Good nutrition and sleep helped a bit, and I took a lot and a variety of supplements but didn’t really start to truly heal until I took Lypho-Spheric Vitamin C (recommended to me by another person who had Epstein Barr I met in a Facebook Group). I bought through LivOnLabs.com. Best wishes!!!

      • Tammy Gadomski says:

        (Just proofread my post and see that I forgot to specify that I’m 45 yrs old now).

      • Courtney Canning says:

        Thank you for your advice. I am noticing that a healthy diet really does make all the difference. I have had the sore throat for 2 and a half months now along with a white tongue. But since I’ve been eating organic and gluten free for the past week it seems to be settling down now. I’m hoping I can get past this and live a normal life again.

        • Tammy Gadomski says:

          Eliminating gluten worked for me. I eliminated dairy too. Yep, soar throat and swollen glands was present most days.

          • Courtney Canning says:

            How long after u started eating right did u start to feel better? Do you still have flare ups?

            • Tammy Gadomski says:

              I noticed a change after about a month of the eating — but it was only a very slight improvement. I was really bad for months and months. It was a slow process, but there was progress. I don’t push supplements, but I do have to say I noticed an IMMEDIATE improvement when I started the Vitamin C — the way it’s made is more readily absorbed by the body I guess, I don’t really know the science behind it. I no longer have flare ups, but I baby myself — no more long work out sessions, I don’t stay up late, and barely drink a glass of wine.

              • Courtney Canning says:

                I have no children and wanted to try to have a baby and I am worried that it might be a problem now. Have you heard anyone say pregnancy causes flare ups? Also they do make gluten free alcohol, though I know it’s not good for ur immune system.

                • Tammy Gadomski says:

                  I have not heard anything about pregnancy causing flare ups, but I also do not know anyone who has had Epstein & then became pregnant. Maybe join a Facebook group — even just to get that question answered. The group I’m in has thousands of members — great resource. Don’t know much about alcohol & ingredients — I’m not that strict with avoidance (about 80% of the time I follow no gluten)… maybe Tito’s vodka?

                  • Courtney Canning says:

                    Hello again, so I was starting to feel really good and i had a burger a gluten free beer and some Smores. Now today I don’t feel all that great again. So I’m thinking eating bad has a lot to do with why I feel like I do. I guess you really do have to baby yourself. I’m on vaca and wanted to splurge but I won’t do that again. I’m sorry to keep posting but I don’t have social media and have no one to talk to about this.

                    • Jen Reilly, RD says:

                      Hi Courtney! Sounds like you figured out your body and what it needs 🙂 I’m the nutrition director here so I’m chiming in for Kris. It’s funny how once we give our bodies what they need, any veering off course can backfire worse than the last time. Wishing you loads of health and happiness! xo

                    • Courtney Canning says:

                      Is it possible to eventually feel like myself again with time? I’ve heard as long as you take care of yourself it’s possible. I feel like o take 3 steps forward then 2 steps back. It’s just lingering around.

                • Sjer says:

                  Hi I felt better during my 2 pregnancies than I have in years. I had Mono at the age of 29 years old and didn’t have my children till 39+. I feel I have more energy now than in my twenties with lingering EBV back then. My 4 year old has this week been diagnosed with EBV as he’s had ongoing issues with mouth ulcers.

  23. Lisa says:

    What about Cat’s Claw?

    It has helped thousands of people with thyroid issues.

    • Jen Reilly, RD says:

      Hi Lisa! I’m the nutrition director here at Crazy Sexy Wellness, so I’ll chime in. Sounds like folks with EBV have found great relief while taking Cat’s Claw as well as licorice, lysine, Vitamin C, and VItamin B12. While there isn’t a ton of research proving these benefits, if you scroll the comments above, you’ll see lots of testimonial evidence. Hope that helps! xo – Jen

  24. james pickford says:

    i was diagnosed of herpes virus since late 2015 and i was on my doctor prescription ever since, I wasn’t satisfied i needed to get the virus out of my system,i was going through a blog to find new informations about the Herpes Simplex Virus i came across a review of a lady who was cured by Totalcureherbalfoundation gmailcom,I contacted the herbal foundation and they guided me on how to purchase the herbal formula.the herbal products las me for 14 weeks which helps me to get rid of the virus totally.

  25. Jane Sholes says:

    I have been suffering a strange aliment that doctors could not find the source of. A few weeks ago I had blood tests that confirmed I had EBV and CMV. The numbers are very high, I need all the help I can get. This has been going on for about five years and I have seen many doctors.

  26. Jen says:

    I have been sick with this and that for 2 years. Now I am experiencing severe pain in my neck back and arms I am fatigued all the time I am very weak compared to what I used to be I am trying to figure out what is wrong and I read your story I am going to try some things for sure

  27. Tanya says:

    I havr been diagnosed with Tumeffective MS and have tested for EBV. Is getting the EBV effective is stopping these lesions and getting them under control once and for all.

    • Tanya says:

      I have also been diagnosed with Myasthenia Gravis and Fibromyalgia. About 20 yrs ago. Are these treatments helpful to get any of this also under control. Thank you

  28. Roger Samuel says:

    Cat’s Claw is my go to antivirus, along with Lemon Balm and Licorice Root. The new Thyroid Healing by Anthony Williams book has many good recipes and drinks for healing.

    • Gina says:

      Thank you. I will surely give those a try Samuel. Do you take that stuff in capsule form? I found a wonderful Naturopathic doctor on YouTube who does a 4 part series on EBV and she absolutely mentions those as part as her regimen.

      • Riger Samuel says:

        I like the 500 mg capsules of Cat’s Claw. . I take between 1 and 4 capsules per day.

      • Tammy says:

        Gina, can you tell me the name of this Naturopathic doctor on YouTube with the four-part series on EBV? I’ve been fighting EBV for eight months.

        • Gina says:

          Attune functional medicine. Look of YouTube for this. It’s a 4 part series. If you can’t find it message me back

          • Tammy says:

            I found it. Thanks so much. I’m trying a few supplements at a time because there’s so many. Hope this works. I’ve had this for 9 months.

            • Roger Samuel says:

              Tammy,

              I have tried several – licorice root, lemon balm, l-lysine.
              However, the one that worked the best for me is Cat’s Claw. Hands down it caused me to discharge the EBV after 90 days. I now take Cat’s Claw, lemon balm and licorice root on a daily basis. Also celery juice is very good for healing.

              • Tammy says:

                I started taking Cat’s Claw Friday, and as you have seen on my last message, I’m trying a few more (literally toggling between web site windows now) — L-lysine is one… I was just trying to determine if I should do the lemon balm but the link on Attune Functional Medicine’s YouTube for that one herb wasn’t working. So I tried looking for one on my own off the Pure Formulas, but the only alcohol-free ones are for a blend, that includes Passion Flower, etc. & I’m already ordering Passion Flower. Where do you get your Lemon Balm & what is its brand name? Thanks.

                • Roger Samuel says:

                  I use Lemon Balm by Herb Pharm. It is in tincture form. I then add it to a little bite of my daily tea.

                  Also, according to Anthony Williams, the EBV is the cause of 95 percent of thyroid problems in this country. The EBV causes the fatigue. I no longer have the fatigue. I started last April and on July 1 the EBV discarged from my body in a big way. That caused a sudden surge of energy back into my life from that day. However, I still need to take these antivirals. It can take up to a year or so for many people to completely heal. Lisa (I use my husband’s login – Roget Samuel).

                • Roger Samuel says:

                  Also, in the first month or so of taking Cat’s Claw, I would sometimes feel sick, so I would stop taking Cat’s Claw for a day or so. Then I would feel better and I would start taking it again. This process can happen because the Cat’s Claw is killing off the virus and this dead material gets into our blood stream, causing a discomfortable feeling. For me, I just kept trying and did not give up. Also Celery Juice in the morning helps kill off the EBV and adds hydrochloride acid to the digestive system. Hope this helps – Lisa.

                  • Tammy says:

                    Hi again, Have you (or anyone) ever heard of this virus triggering Chronic Fatigue Syndrome? I’m on 11 months and getting nervous. I watched “Unrest”, a documentary film directed by the main character, Jennifer Brea, who has CFS. So sad and scary. Unreal what people are going through with no relief. Does anyone how long this virus can remain active? I’m wondering at what point is it past EBV, and it’s something else and I should see a Neurologist (typically the specialist who would diagnose CFS). Any thoughts? Anyone?

  29. Gina says:

    I had Epstein Barr in March, September and again now. I honestly do not know what more I can do to be healthy. I eat 80% vegetables and fruits and Go easy on my meat intake and dairy is non existent. I take many good brand antiviral herbs and have the money to utilize vitamin C infusions as well as energy medicine and I still struggle. My immune system isn’t responding. What does one do next?

  30. Sue says:

    Hi! I’m not sure how long ago this was posted as I didn’t see a date listed. I just got tested and out of 6 tests in the panel, I tested positive for 4 of them. Not sure what’s the difference between all of them. You listed the names of the tests in the interview but didn’t eliminate on what each means. Do you have time to explain? You also mentioned the liver. My ALT and AST are elevated but all rest of liver panel good. How does EBV effect the liver? Would love to hear more, please teach!!

  31. lucas says:

    Aiden Lucas
    I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia for 3 years, and it was very painful some days. I was taken methocarbamol to relieve the pain. Sometimes it helps and other days it doesn’t. it was killing me for 3 years, doctor said there was no cure. So I tried to live with it and it wasn’t easy.My childhood friend introduced me to Dr George (Good health herbs home),Dr George fibromyalgia herbal remedy cured me within 6 weeks of usage ,am fibromyalgia free now 100%.

  32. Jeff Nock, Jr. says:

    Can you get EBV airborne without any saliva contact?

  33. Mary Naylor says:

    Just read all the comments and I truely understand what most are going through. I just spent the last 7 yrs going from Dr to Dr trying to figure out what was wrong for many years. Each Dr had me on a protocol that lasted months and many times I would improve but after two to three months I would hit a brick wall and start backwards. Very frustrating as I would be so hopeful I was healing. My main condition was my skin disease which two years ago was so severe, I would wake up at night tearing at my skin. I felt as though the first three Drs. just wanted me to go away. I began having death dreams. I really got depressed and thought I was dying. A friend referred me to a skin scientist after I was diagnosed with Mersa. He told me I had been misdiagnosed and had a virus and liver problem. I spent 21 days detoxing at his clinic with the assurance I would leave healed. Well, it was an amazing experience but I came away about 80% healed. I began to slide backwards again and found a natrapath in Clearwater who is brilliant and uses kinesiology and right away diagnosed my EBV. I had mono at 20yrs old, was hospitalized, and was told by my mother years later that the Drs. didn’t expect me to get through the night. This info, about my mono, was on every evaluation I filled out at every Drs. visit and no one picked up on it except the last Dr. That astound me in view of the fact that when I’m researching EBV, I find so many people suffering with it. I am now 66yrs old and working on finding my cure. I now believe it is possible to get there with the help of people who are committed to natural cures. But, it takes time and lots of adjustments in diet and attitude. Mainly, I’m getting my gut health back and my immune system stronger. Just understanding why and what is EBV helps me move in a much more positive direction. I also believe my disease has helped me move to a much more caring and compassionate place in my life. I think there is much more research to come on these autoimmune diseases and I’m looking forward to Anthony William’s new book on thyroid healing coming out in Nov.

    • Roger Samuel says:

      Just read Thyroid Healing, by Anthony Williams.

      His book is amazing and his protocol is working for my Hashimoto’s

      • Tammy says:

        Is helping our thyroids thought to help our EBV? I’m curious why EBV patients are reading this book? I have EBV and have been up & down for 8 months.

        • Roger Samuel says:

          Hi Tammy. Anthony Williams has three books. He explains the EBV in detail and how to recover from many illnesses.

          Before I read his books, I was constantly up and down. One day tired and in bed, one day up and o.k. Now I am up and out everyday. My energy is wonderful and my thyroid numbers are the best they have been in over 5 years – TSH 2.4.

  34. Tammy says:

    My Epstein Barr virus has been reactivated at 44 years old. I’m in my seventh month. I am up and down, and when I’m down, I should be in bed because I feel like I have the flu, but I have two young children and guilt for them to have a happy, healthy, normal Mom pushed me to keep upright. The fatigue and weakness is the main and worst symptom, but I also have swollen glands and a slight soar throat. My eye has started twitching, which I attribute to stress. I have always had a nervous stomach, but it has worsened with age. Staying away from sugar and eating fruits and vegetable has helped. I think stress is my main culprit, so I’ve added meditation this week. Since the third month of its onset (that’s how late I was diagnosed), I started coconut oil, licorice root, and hemp, flax, and chia seeds, and Burdock Root tea. I now am going to try your Top Five suggested above. I don’t want this to turn into Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, as I read it could do! I’m trying to stay positive, as the past seven months I had dips of sadness that I’m sure hasn’t help either. Thanks for your friendly and positive web site!

    • Tammy says:

      This is Tammy again, replying to my paragraph above because my main question is: How do I know if this virus will stay just a virus (that I realize may resurface) or if it becomes Chronic Fatigue Syndrome or Fibromyalgia?

    • Naomi says:

      Flax is akin to wheat I was told. It makes me sneeze, so flax might not be helpful.

  35. Pam says:

    In May of this year, I was diagnosed with active EPV, by blood work. My naturopath told me to take lauricidin (an antiviral) along with Myer cocktails in the office (IV minerals). Because I began feeling better and I couldn’t go in for the IV for two weeks, I never did use them. Now my EBV infection is back in full force. My whole body hurts. The muscles in my legs feel non-existent. I am sleeping 12 hrs a night and spending most of my days in bed because I can barely move my body. Even sitting down on the toilet is excruciating. My lower back burns all the time. Has anyone here had any success with the five recommendations for herbs on this website? I have to be careful with herbs because there are some I don’t tolerate, but at this point, I am willing to try them. This is so debilitating for me.

    • Kathleen says:

      Thanks to all for sharing your stories. My daughters and I are on this same journey. EBV has wreaked havok with our lives. Here’s where the magic is happening – I ask all of you for one moment to put your opinions aside and drink in this information. There are almost 3 million of us on the facebook page. When you are done exploring you will be hooked and know in your soul of souls this is true knowledge. It’s a great place to start to learn about EBV.

    • Annie says:

      Pam,
      I would go back and get those Myer Cocktails. That’s what helped me heal from EBV initially. You may have to get a couple a week at first, and then taler down as your body heals. They were literally the only thing that helped me get better.

  36. Aldrin says:

    I have mono now for over 1 year and the fatigue is still very bad. For how long can mono impact my body?

  37. Pam says:

    Kris,
    Would any form of zinc be alright to treat EB V? I have zinc picolinate (22 mg) which I use for mercury poisoning, but just found out I have an active form of EBV. I have also found monolaurin helpful.

  38. valerie says:

    My mom went through a similar experience and she too healed herself through a natural process by an herbalist she got in contact with.
    .She had dysplaysia and detrimental cancer stage 3c. Here she is a year later and she is cancer free. It was a lot of work taking those herbs but she did it without chem. Her Dr told her she’d be dead in a year, well with chemo she probably would have. Fight the fight and keep on fighting. I hope you all have babies soon, you’ll have to fight for them too. still have the contact of herbal Dr if you want to give it a try. Blessings.

    • Pam says:

      Valeria,
      Did you mean dysphagia, which is vocal cord dysfunction. And what is “detrimental cancer”? Where actually was her cancer in her body? Just curious

  39. Marlene says:

    I need to find a naturopath here in Fort Worth, Texas. So far I haven’t found a doctor that gives me a treatment for EBV and it’s been over a year and I still have symptoms. I wonder if after a year it’s consider chronic EBV. If anyone knows of a doctor or naturopath in my area, please let me know. Thanks.

  40. Elaine says:

    EBV has several stages that can indeed affect people when they are particularly vulnerable, such as
    when under great stress, holding on to chronic feelings of fear, anxiety, great loss, etc. Indeed, you must be patient with your healing process. It takes time to heal. Lots of rest is important. Other herbs and supplements that are helpful are vitamin B 12 ( as methylcobalamin and / or adenosylcobalamin, in liquid form, sublingual), Zinc, Cat’s Claw ( non- alcohol form), Nettle leaf tea, and Ester-C . Supportive
    family and friends are important, and be joyful, have fun, & laugh often. Just trust that you are on your path to well being.

  41. D says:

    I have been working with an IFM doctor for the last year after getting really sick from a sexual assault. I have tested positive for dairy and gluten intolerance after a life long battle with digestive issues & removed those from my diet. I eat incredibly “clean.” I am on a slew of supplements to support my adrenals; after saliva cortisol testing showed I was in stage 2 bordering stage 3 of adrenal fatigue. The supplements weren’t enough. Further testing revealed that my thyroid is underfunctioning, though I don’t have Hashimotos. It’s simply because my adrenal glands are so “shot.” So I started Nature-Throid. But stomach issues continued and we found out my body isn’t digesting fat. I’m now taking a very strong pancreatic enzyme with large meals and that helps. But once the digestion was improved, I was still struggling with this horrible fatigue. In January, doctor tested for EBV and my antibodies are out the roof though I haven’t been recently exposed. DR said it’s likely I had mono as a kid and the dormant virus was re-actived through all the stress. I’ve been on a herbal regimen for the last 3 months. The first week I was having night sweats. The second week hot flashes began. By the end of the month, I was tolerating the hot flashes, so the DR put me on the full protocol that he has. Within a week, I was so sick I was throwing up. He had me stop for 3 days and restart at a very low dose one week, and go up. I’m also on copious amounts of vitamin C, D, and A. My periods are HELL and take EVERYTHING out of me. It’s the only time I actually sleep. I’m doing everything that I can to reduce stress/promote sleep. I’ve just had to increase the thyroid med because the herbal supplements have affected my system. I feel MISERABLE. The doctor says I now meet criteria for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. My psychiatrist just gave me a prescription for Low Dose Naltrexone, to help my immune system. She is currently pushing a low dose of adderral because I am practically house bound and lifeless. I’m a doctoral candidate, and I’m trying to keep up with all of the research behind what’s going on (western vs. functional medicine) to make informed decisions. Psychiatrist thinks adderral would benefit, but I’m afraid the stimulant will ruin the work we’re trying to do to restore my adrenal glands. I meet with my IFM doctor Thursday via an e-visit, because I can’t make it to his office, but I want to stop using the herbal supplements. I guess I’m wondering if this is how others experienced trying to get rid of EBV? From the main interview, it sounds so much easier and gentler than my experience. I’m going to ask about trying the Acycovir instead. In addition to all the supplements supporting my adrenals (which include items Aviva listed above), the anti-viral supplements my DR has me on include high potency Mitake, Citricidal Plus (Grapefruit extract with echinacea), and monolaurin, and L-Lysine. I don’t know what else to do…I’m desperate to get everything back in balance. I want my life back!

    • Tammy says:

      I’ve had very similar symptoms. Unfortunately, I have no answers. I just don’t like reading someone’s terrible experiences and not replying. I am going to see an Autoimmune Doc– perhaps a Rheumatologist? Good luck.

    • Naomi says:

      Perhaps try homeopathics rather than herbs. Someone told me that different treatments work for different bodies. You’ll have to find a naturopath that knows homeopathy.

    • Sandra Armendariz says:

      D, I definitely know how you feel! I’ve struggled with fatigue and pain for many years only to be diagnosed with fibromyalgia back in 2009. I have tried just about everything and only a few things have helped a little. I’ve only learned in the past few years that I have EBV. The last time I got tested was in January 2020 and the numbers were off the charts! The test measures up to 750 and my result was >750 when anything above 21 is considered positive. My PCP looked at me, shook his head, and said, “I don’t know how you do it”. Function… He doesn’t know how I function. For me, it’s like waking up from a surgery and having to get dressed and go to work. The fatigue and pain is incredible. Today, I visited my biofeedback therapist who I haven’t seen in several years. She told me about a machine that will get rid of the virus in one or two sessions. I’ll have blood work done again in September, so we’ll see if that’s true. I don’t recall the name of the treatment, but I’m scheduled to have it tomorrow. I’ll definitely have more information about it tomorrow. If you’re interested in learning more about it, let me know, and I will give you all the information I find out.

  42. Great info thanks. I have just been told that grains and nuts are foods to avoid with EBV. Do you know anything about this? Grains is a no brainier but.. nuts? ?

  43. Stephanie says:

    I hav ebeen dealing with EBV for 8 years now. Initially, my doctor didn’t take me seriously and refused to test me and pretty much told me I was lazy, so I had to do anything to get in shape. I tried for about 9 months but I felt worse everyday. Eventually went to a different doctor, who then told me that I DID have EBV and that I had now overworked my body to such an extent, that she wasn’t sure what to do about it. I tried everything: from changing my diet, supplements, relaxation practices, guided exercise, but nothing seems to help. I have Always said that it should be a combination of all these things, but with no help (and support), it’s been tough. I’ll try out these supplements all together 🙂

  44. This is really interesting! I have a friend who has EBV, I just sent this to her! It will be really helpful!

  45. Afshin says:

    Hi . I had blood test and came back with past infection EBV . I’m really worried and that affect my life . So do you think I can’t marriage forever? Please email me soon as possible thanks

  46. Gudrun. otto says:

    desperately, lonely ,dount, now anymore what ,to do people,dountf belive one.everybody think u lazy

  47. Sarena says:

    Thanks so much for sharing this! Aviva is doing excellent work. This also makes me wonder whether other conditions could in-fact be EBV. Is there a blood test to check whether EBV has been reactivated, or do you just go off of symptoms? I went through something very similar, but when they tested me for EBV they said the virus wasn’t active. However, my monocytes were elevated for months on end. Because I also had Lyme at one point, and I have Celiac disease (an autoimmune), the puzzle is a bit complex. Really appreciate you shedding light on this!! Thanks again for being such a help to all of us.

  48. K.C. Gott says:

    Hi Kris, I had Mono as a teenager – around 13 or 14 years old – and was really sick for about 6 weeks. After graduate school, I was diagnosed with chronic EBV. I was 35. It has been a nightmare to find the right practitioner to help me navigate the health issues that have followed. I became a health coach, started working with holistic practitioners, and, through experimentation, I’ve found that many of the suggestions from Dr. Romm are helpful for me. Thanks for bringing attention to this issue. So many people are affected and left without answers when their healthcare providers aren’t knowledgeable or motivated to look beyond the obvious.

  49. Ruth says:

    What i cant understand is why when a – professional – says something it is true yet an ordinary person like myself it is hypochondriac when some one like me says it.

  50. Jennifer says:

    I have been dealing with adrenal fatigue for almost 3 years now and have finally been tested for EBV and it is confirmed that I have reactivated EBV. I tried colloidal silver but it did not help. I am now trying Monolaurin and Takuna to see if it will help to make it dormant. Thank you so much for talking about this!!! Not many people are proactive in their health care and know what to ask for when they run tests.

    • Nancy A Corsaut says:

      Jennifer, I’ve been suffering from adrenal fatigue for about 2 years minimum. I just went to an alternative health care practitioner and she said I have EBV and an autoimmune disorder. I am also on colloidal silver and about 15 other supplements as well. She said that by the end of December, it is now mid September, I will feel like a new woman. I am hopeful! She has me taking Lysine, Ester C, B12, D3, Spirulina, Barley Grass, Silica Organo, Zinc and a few other things. I will stress that everybody’s body is different and has specific requirements.

  51. Casey says:

    Hmmm…so the part I’m confused about is the EBV labs. My doc tested me and my titers were high BUT she said there was no active infection. How do you know if EBV has been reactivated based in labs then? Wish the doc would have explained that one because I have an autoimmune disease and adrenal fatigue so it’s kinda hard to tell if EBV is playing a role right now or now…one thing at a time, I guess. Thanks Kris!!?

  52. Bettina says:

    A kinesiologist diagnosed the EBV with me and channelled it with a combination of kinesiology, homeopathy and bioresonance.

    • Linda Campbell says:

      Bettina, can you explain what you mean by “channeling it” ?

      I’m working with my kinesiologist, and we have just today begun trying to use biofeedback to understand my (possible) EBV….but, that said, I’ve in the past as a kid had Chicken Pox, and as an adult, 2 bouts of Shingles…so it’s not out of the real of possibility that I have EBV.

  53. Priscilla says:

    I was diagnosed with EBV 30 years ago. At first all I could do is sleep when I needed. I seemed to have energy in afternoons. I would walk outside and do deep breathing in and out. Dr. checked my thyroid and I went onto thyroid medication. Within 5 years my Dr. put me onto another medication veneflaxion. I learned to meditate and became a Reiki practitioner. I have had a few relapses within these 30 years. Always felt better when I ate natural foods and vegetables. I went onto Nature Thyroid 7years ago and this helped with both my T3 and T4. Needed to avoid white foods, flour, milk, cheeses, chocolate and sugar. About two years ago i was under a lot of stress due to my last sister dying and had changed my eating habits to eating keto diet foods . A big relapse occurred and Dr. gave me a strong pain reliever medicine to use when the muscle aches /pains persisted and the fogginess was too much…..Now I again have gone back to step one, lots of sleep(9-12hours a night) and sometime an hour or so during the day. I also learned to say “NO” to invitations without explaining why. IT IS WHAT IT IS! I know I am not going to die because of EBV/Chronic Fatigue and that this too shall pass. I was a type A personality and now know my limit and accept me for me…..I hope this gives each of you some insight to assisting you in discovering yourselves. A good listening Dr. helps..Blessings to all.

  54. Sarah says:

    Can you get a home test for EBV and if so do you have recommendation

    Sarah (Liverpool UK)

  55. Kristina Roppo says:

    I’m so happy that this is getting attention. Thank you so much Kris! I have chronically active EBV. I was diagnosed three years ago.

    I found that going vegan, gluten free, and refined sugar free helped tremendously. I emphasize a lot of dark leafy vegetables with every meal. I also found that yoga works wonders for me when I want to exercise, but I have no energy.

    Currently I’m on a viral tincture that is helping support my immune system because my liver is not functioning correctly. Other than that, I take vitamins.
    Vitamin C is helpful. I find taking 3000 mg day helps.

    With me, my doctor and I found sleep to be the best thing for me when I’m having a particularly hard day. My body heals during this time.

    The other thing I do is limit environmental factors because, at this time, my immune system is completely wiped out. This included a change from working in the veterinary field to working at home.

  56. Elizabeth says:

    I’m hoping you can tell me if the immune supportive supplements recommended are generally safe to take while breastfeeding?

    • Kris Carr says:

      Hi Elizabeth, Here’s Aviva’s response to your q: “Great question! In this case, yes, they are, but of course, monitor yourself closely and check-in with your healthcare practitioner before making any changes to your regimen.” – Aviva Romm, MD

  57. JD says:

    My 3 year old is a liver transplant patient and got EBV from the donor(this is pretty normal). She gets regular labs to keep track of her EBV count. She takes an anti-viral called Gancyclovir(valcyte) to keep it at bay–it brought her serum count from over 100,000 to 5,000. When she was over 100,000 I had to keep track of lymph nodes swelling, etc. Now that she is at 5,000 we may be able to take a break from the anti-viral. I also think that I may have it now as well, I do kiss and snuggle the heck out of my little! So I’ve been trying to boost my immune system and am going to get myself tested to see 🙂

  58. Lisa S. says:

    I’m very familiar with the Epstein-Barr virus (EBV). I was diagnosed back in 1998 with chronic fatigue. Luckily, I found a holistic D.O. who helped me get better via nutrient IV drips, supplements, homeopathic remedies, herbs, etc. Truth was, I wasn’t feeling good since I was aged 15 and there, 11 years later, they found I had tested with severe EBV. I was in my mid-20s and it changed my entire life’s direction. At the time, I was a bicycle racer and so, I quit doing that, along with my career as a paralegal. I began a healing journey that led me to heal my thyroid, adrenals, hormones, depression, anxiety, and fatigue that continues on to this day. As I write this, I’m 44 and I don’t have children or a high-powered career, but I have a husband who loves me dearly, my art and music, sweet backyard animals, and true, genuine happiness. I’ve had relapses of EBV and adrenal fatigue over the years and each time, it’s taught me to slow down, be gentle with myself, love myself more, take better care of myself, let go more, set boundaries more, and stop trying to “earn my keep” on this planet. I have done multiple courses of intravenous nutrients and they have really helped me, along with yoga, meditation, gentle walks in nature, and self-acceptance. I really believe so much of the immune system is our relationship to our sacred, precious self. When we’re hard on ourselves or push ourselves too hard, the body will let us know. I still struggle at times with trying to be “perfect,” but really, as I’ve approached so-called “middle age,” I’m the healthiest and happiest I’ve ever been. All the things folks write about self-care: time in nature, journaling, counseling, yoga, meditation/prayer, and relaxing…yep, do those! 🙂 I also recommend taking good care of your gut. Lots of your immune system is in the gut! I avoid white sugar, gluten, dairy, and eat plant-based 99% of the time, along with doing things to support my tummy like probiotics, HCL, enzymes, L-Glutamine, etc. I’m a sensitive person with a sensitive body and I now see my body as a gift, not something to overwork or punish. Blessings to all on their healing journeys who might read these words. xo

    • Kari says:

      Thank you Lisa! I am on the same round, just a few miles back! This is VERY encouraging! Yurt Grrl???

    • Casey says:

      Omg Lisa I feel you are a kindred spirit! I am 35 and am going through so much of what you have been through, especially with regards to my adrenals. I also have an autoimmune disease. I’ve tested with high titers for EBV but my doc said I don’t have an active infection. But I don’t understand how they can tell. Could I email you privately for more info on what you’ve done and what’s worked? I’m supposed to start working with an integrative doc soon who does IV nutrients but I’m a little nervous and would love to hear more about your experience with it and other things that have worked for you. I already practice with gong, mindfulness, journaling, prayer, and a whole foods organic diet. Also, I love your peace about not having kids but having a wonderful marriage and home life. I’m in the same boat!! Hugs, Casey

      • Lisa S. says:

        Aww, hey, Casey! I feel that too…kindred spirits are a good thing in our world! You’re not alone. I’m definitely not an expert, but happy to share. I know everyone’s path is different, but I’d be willing to share…as long as you promise to take your doc’s advice b4 mine 🙂 xoxo You can find me on the interwebs as Lisa Selow.

        • Jen says:

          Hi, I love what you wrote. I too have a very sensitive body (and soul). I just found out today that I had unknown EBV in the past and I’ve been struggling with thyroid, adrenal, skin itch, and immune system issues the past 2 years. Its been really awful and I had to quit my job in order to function. I am breaking through and getting better, but want to really fine tune what I do now that I know about EBV. I’d love to contact you as well. Everything you said really resonated with me. My name is Jen Schwartz. I’ll FB message you. xoxo

      • Jen says:

        They can tell from the bloodwork. Check out this link. It tells you how to read your bloodwork and know what kind of infection you have…active, inactive, etc.

        https://labtestsonline.org/understanding/analytes/ebv/tab/test/

  59. Kari says:

    Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I was diagnosed with EBV last March & there are SO many ideas here for me to try! I am seeing a functional medicine Dr, but need more self care and holistic treatments. Your timing is perfect, Kris Carr!!!
    What a blessing you are! Yurt Grrl ???

  60. Tina says:

    Hi Chris:

    First, thank you for your positive and inspiring messages. I really enjoy your newsletter and motivational teachings/writings. You are truly a bright light in the world!

    Regarding Epstein-Barr and, indeed, any of the herpes family of viruses, a plant-based diet is typically NOT recommended due to the high levels of the amino acid argenine found in many of the protein sources (nuts, seeds, certain legumes) and grains (wheat, oats) that figure so largely in vegetarian/vegan diets. In fact, many who are herpes positive find that adopting a vegetarian/vegan lifestyle drastically INCREASES their outbreaks/symptoms. Recommended is a diet high in the amino acid lysine to balance argenine levels since both compete for the same molecule in the body. Animal products contain the highest amounts of lysine, specifically, dairy, fish and meat. The argenine/lysine ratio is important because argenine is used by the virus to replicate and lysine prevents viral replication. There is a big, long scientific explanation for this that I am sure your readers/researchers can find online, and loads of information, holistic and otherwise, to support this recommendation. Also, zinc supplementation should be managed by a healthcare provider as high levels of zinc are not only toxic but can cause copper deficiency in the body. My personal experience as a person positive for some time with HSV2 is that people who are prone to outbreaks find that the big four–stress, coffee, nuts and chocolate–have to be managed with care (or as regards coffee, nuts and chocolate eliminated) at least in the early years of the virus. Antivirals offer some relief to some people, but they do not prevent outbreaks; they only shorten the duration and decrease (but do not prevent) viral shedding.

    Thank you for letting me share!

    • Charlotte says:

      Would like to know more about your foundation/premise for this treatment/regime? I have sleuthed and researched in earnest, since being diagnosed with CAEBV in July 2015. (Currently am taking Reishi, Maca, Zinc, magnesium, Fish and Borage Oil, Vitamin A, D, B12, Pilocarpine for lack of moisture in lacrimal and mouth glands, avoidance of gluten, low dairy products (but I have to have a cup of coffee in the am), low to no processed food, and organic as often as possible..)

      I would be grateful to know where is best place to research (where I have not been (-: )…the fatigue and mental confusion are strong most every day, some days better than others, Xerostomia and Sicca are kicking my butt, yet also fatigue post (light-weight) workout or walking outdoors. Thank you for providing more information, wishing the best for you and continued good health!

      • Casey says:

        Charlotte, have you been tested for Sjogren’s Syndrome? It’s a systemic autoimmune disease which I have and is the secon most common one affecting women in the U.S. And you have all the symptoms. You’ll want to ask your doc to refer you to a rheumatologist and/or test for SSB and SSA autoantibodies, as well as testing to see if you have a positive ANA and/or rheumatoid factor. Best wishes!!

      • Jen says:

        Lack of moisture in mouth glands makes me think Sjogren’s Syndrome is a possibility as well.

        xoxo

    • Priscilla says:

      Thank you for sharing…I too have found this out just this year…no coffee, chocolate and am surprised no nuts…..

  61. Rebecca says:

    Wow, finding this made my day, thank you! Was diagnosed with EBV earlier this year, and haven’t tried all these awesome natural remedies yet. I’ve mostly managed to get my symptoms under control through a very healthy, unprocessed, whole foods vegan diet and lots of sleep/rest. I started with daily a.m. smoothies of kale and blueberries with maca and dulse flakes. Even when I was too weak to exercise, eating healthy felt so good, emotionally. I also take SAMe, daily, to help lift mood. To anyone else reading here who has EBV, hang in there, it gets better. This is some pretty comprehensive info- how awesome of you to share, Kris. 🙂

  62. Erin says:

    It is possible to rid the body of EBV completely through a detoxification process called homotoxicology. Its not well known, but extremely powerful and both my daughter and I have been healed by this process. I would encourage anyone to find a practitioner!! This type of medicine is our future, I believe!

    • Kris Carr says:

      Hey Erin! I checked in with Aviva on your question. Here’s what she had to say: “To my knowledge, it is not possible to fully rid the body of the virus; however it is possible for it to stay dormant without ever having a recurrence.” – Aviva Romm, MD

      • Erin says:

        This is not something most MD’s know about though my pratitioner says that every time she goes to a conference, more and more MDs are there. So I’m hoping it becomes better known. My daughter is living proof. After 4 years of pure hell (pardon), we have given up on traditional western medicine. Their best advice was that she see a psychiatrist. She has missed most of her high school years due to this illness and to see her improve, in direct relation to the treatment, has been a godsend. I respect the view of the MD, but no one person can know everything. I hope that in the future, western medicine becomes more open to things that they don’t understand. Energy medicine is very powerful. All said with respect to everyone involved.

    • Christina says:

      Hello Erin,

      Could you tell me more about the process of homotoxicology?

      Thank you 🙂

  63. Mary says:

    I had my epv on my last blood test and the results came back 6.8. My Dr. Said it looks like you had mono and I did.
    Normal or high?

  64. Royal Rife says:

    In addition to the great herbal supplements listed above, another way one can treat EPV using Rife Digital Machines with this frequency set programmed into the digital machine:
    Epstein-Barr Virus Infections: 0.07, 0.52, 0.70, 0.93, 372.50, 375.00, 380.00, 382.85, 519.34, 791.28
    When these subtle electro-therapy frequencies enter the body, the pathogens associated with the EPV are gradually destroyed.

    • Royal Rife says:

      https://kriscarr.com/blog/epstein-barr-virus-symptoms-treatment/#comment-777401

      Epstein Barre Virus (EBV) is a mysterious disease because in spite of building up antibodies, it attacks repeatedly. EPV is seen only in persons who also have Eurytrema (pancreatic fluke) in the pancreas. When the fluke is gone, one can no longer find EBV in the white blood cells. This suggests that the virus comes from the fluke. As each fluke dies and is finally removed, the body’s white blood cells can catch up with the viruses and you begin to feel better again, which can be as quick as one day. But reinfection with an EBV-carrying Eurytrema (plus a wood alcohol containing beverage to allow the fluke to go to the pancreas) can spark the next recurrence.

      Due to the toxicity of wood alcohol in foods and beverages, Dr Clark proved that EBV infections could re-occur. One must look at all aspects of diet. which can be a contender for reinfections of the EBV virus. Rife user must also run Detox frequency sets:

      Detox: (Toxin extraction) 0.20, 0.14, 0.33, 0.42, 0.44, 0.55, 0.52, 0.76, 0.78, 1.86

      At least 14 days on Detox set to assist with the elimination of toxins such as Eurytrema

      Followed by a 21 day Parasite treatment focused specifically on Parasites flukes pancreatic:

      Parasites flukes pancreatic: 0.17, 0.32, 0.85, 2.75, 17.50, 47.30, 75.50, 97.50, 151.07, 451.04

      • Priscilla says:

        So where does one find access to this Rife machine? I did have treatments in Northern California, however I live in SW part of Montana now..ay suggestions on this location search? thanks.

        • Jen says:

          RE the Rife Digital machine, what kind of practitioner would have access to one for treatment? A chiro? Naturopath? Thanks!

    • Jen says:

      RE the Rife Digital machine, what kind of practitioner would have access to one for treatment? A chiro? Naturopath? Thanks!

    • Laura says:

      How do I find out more about this?

  65. Joan says:

    I was first diagnosed with EPV in 1977- I was a sophomore in college. My liver and spleen were severely enlarged and my white blood count was way off. I have been in and out of remission ever since. A wonderful doc started treating me with Acyovir in 1987 and the results have been dramatic. The same doc recommended that I take 500mg Lysine daily and increase that dosage to 4x a day when my EBV is active. I have also found coconut oil to be effective

    • Barbie says:

      Joan – for the Acyovir, do you take that all the time or just when you are showing symptoms of EBV?

  66. I was diagnosed with chronic Epsteirn Barr virus syndrome in the mid-80’s, when it was first discovered. Since the doctors could not tell me what to do about it, I took it upon myself to do everything possible to optimize my immune system (healthy eating, mild exercise, sleep-I nap every day-and supplements.). I still keep up those practices today. I became a health coach, because I wanted to help women who were discouraged about having this condition. Thanks, Kris, and Dr. Aviva, for sharing this very important information.

  67. This is so helpful Kris! So many women suffer from symptoms that don’t get treated. I had mono when I was 18 and it was horrible…I literally couldn’t move. I had horribly swollen glands. It happened in between high school and college and I had to take a month off from work. Even after that, I tired easily for a long time. I can honestly say it was about a year till I really felt like myself. I consider myself fortunate that it never reappeared. I definitely follow Aviva’s dietary recommendations, and do take adaptogens (I like maca and tulsi) from time to time. Thanks for all you do!!!

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